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that is also the papal seal. so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the grounds of vatican city for the last time as the head of the roman catholic church. and liz lev, as our historian, give us some historical perspective and what you're seeing as you see this, as someone who has been so close to the vatican and lived ed id ino longe? >> i'm looking at this courtyard, which has had so many different events take place
've understood that pope benedict the xvi, joseph ratzinger, soon to be pope emeritus is incredibly sensitive and kurt tee just an courteous. people have come to appreciate and feel for him maybe more than they had during the years of his pontificate, jon. jon: as the helicopter prepares to liftoff let's listen to the peeling of the church bells as this pope prepares to say goodbye. [bells ringing ] jon: what a view, when the last pope resigned 600 years ago he didn't depart by helicopter as bill herm pointed out. we have air to air shots covering every move of the current pope east spends his last couple of hours in office heading to a temporary retirement in castle gandolfo a few miles from rome and eventually back to the vatican at well a convent apartment that is being renovated for him now. jenna: the ride itself, the helicopter trip between the vatican and castle gandolfo is supposed to take 15 minutes or so. what a trip it is, by the images we have of the land of rome, quite moving images whether you're watching it from this point of view or in side the helicopter as well. we have a se
wrote about her friend when he was just cardinal joseph ratzinger. >> john paul ii was much more vigorous. when he wanted something, he was really now! joseph ratzinger is not now, but is trying to convince -- maybe try to convince to make these people reasoning in a certain way, but he didn't succeed. >> reporter: even the most faithful say his legacy will be m mixed with great accolades for his teachings and writings but criticism for some of his leadership. >> success is hard to say. it's not that there's been highs and lows but issues to deal with that have been very serious. >> reporter: the abuse of children by priests has driven people away from the church. >> i think there are all kinds of rules and regulations that have been set up to protect children more so that this does not happen again. >> reporter: the growing consensus is that the next pope must be a strong manager, able to take on the challenges and reign in a dysfunction al. able to lead this institution and charisma never hurt. >> i hope he will be a man with a vision and can move forward. say to the crowd i lo
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